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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 11, 2008 4:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

Thank you William Tell.

Thank your veterans for all they have done, but as you said: Never ever let them be sacrificed again for the political whims and machinations of those who don't make the same sacrifice for them or their loved ones.

Our current war in Iraq could not be a more perfect example. Based on a lie, created by those who do not have to worry about their sons and daughters facing the danger, and being fought by brave men and women who deserve better.

And for those who would blindly throw the flag in your face for ever daring to question the "wisdom" of politcians who send others off to die not in true defense of the country, but for the worst of ulterior motives, remind them of the words of Samuel Johnson:

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 11, 2008 6:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens



In a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

I hereby place this wreath and award the LMA Peace Prize to William Tell as the final arbiter in this discussion. Long Live The Tell

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 12, 2008 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

William Tell, Veteren of Morgarten & the Duke of Earl, both fine men

just don't miss the apple

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Poster: jemajn2323 Date: Nov 12, 2008 4:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

I'm 49, never served. In the early 80's I met some guys who served on a gunboat. One time, Jerry stayed up all night with me pouring his heart out. We emptied a bottle and I was forever changed. I remember a Sergeant speaking to our tour of Fort Indian Town Gap, including young children, remarking that war and fighting is the last measure any soldier would really like to see happen. When my son joined the Marines in 2004, I read some things. The most striking ( im a naive late bloomer, sorry), was referring to a person not fighting for country, flag, or unit, but for each others ass. I find it too simple to seperate politics and love and honoring of vets, even knowing the beliefs of those vets may be way different from my own. Thank you for posting the "Address", I consider it the ultimate in words of this subject.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 12, 2008 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

From this vet to a parent of a servicemember.....

Next time you talk to your son, tell him thank you for his service.

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Poster: jemajn2323 Date: Nov 12, 2008 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

Please don't mix my jest with the intent:
Thank you for your service.
(I will be recieving a Gibbs like palm to the back of the head tonight at dinner)

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Poster: jemajn2323 Date: Nov 12, 2008 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

Done

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 12, 2008 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

That is absolutely the unifying theme of all the first hand accounts of all the wars I have read up on: individuals always finding valor, courage, bravery, and comradeship with their fellow servicemen. No matter how big the SNAFU, no matter how detached political abstraction from the reality on the ground, in country, you live and die for the guy next to you, and they in turn, and it's the only way you make it thru...